kyriakosmods | FAQ & SUGGESTIONS

hello i have...kind of a weird question...

so there's already something listed above about characters who require something special to function outside of their normal environment, but in this character here's case, that "something special" is a person, and a character who would be totally appable. the tl;dr version of it is that he's a bio-organic weapon who can't operate without a wielder. without someone of his choosing calling the shots, he's literally nothing more than a pretty-looking magatama sitting on a shelf. how would you recommend going about fixing this issue, if it's something that you feel can be fixed?

We're so sorry! This must have gotten lost in our inbox. If you only have one character, you're allowed to swap one character for another on that one team, but only if the character would still be a good fit. As for the other - like in the case of Sylvanas Windrunner - we generally only allow for that if a current team isn't working out and all options have been exhausted, so it's a last resort kind of thing in order to help out the players who need a different team for their character if nothing else has been working.

If you would rather simply not play with that, it's possible that you can have that requirement for a person be a skill shard to be regained later, and then lock it off until you wish to! If you would prefer to play with it, you could also have him show up in that magatama form and have him use a teammate as that wielder.

sweet, thanks! o/

Question about mirrors and shards! When the shards are placed into the characters' mirrors, do they sort of meld with the other shards in there and become one big piece? If not (meaning they stay as individual shards), is it possible to remove certain ones (i.e. a bad memory the character doesn't want)?

I have a question specific to Hiyori that I suddenly thought of today as I was messing with my registry. :) Hiyori has a knack for being able to copy/execute martial arts skills that she sees. Would this be considered an innate/unconscious skill (like, for example, breathing) or would this be something she needs to regain via shard? I'm happy to go either way, I just want to clarify before going forward since it could effect her character development.

The shards only meld together when a character achieves their Good End! Until that happens, it's completely possible for a character to remove (and replace) shards from their mirror as they wish.

Also! It should be kept in mind that unless a character has been keeping track of the position of said shards in their mirror, they might need to remove and replace shards (causing them to experience the memory again) until they find the particular one they're looking for.

While we prefer to err on the side of those sorts of abilities needing to be regained as skills, it's a grey area in this case! So, it's left up to your discretion whether to treat it as innate or not if you need the flexibility, especially for development reasons.

Purely as a suggestion, you could have her be innately able to copy (in the sense of understanding) the martial art skills that she sees, but have her ability to actually execute them properly be a skill shard.

Regardless of what you decide, please ask other players before having Hiyori copy/execute martial art skills from their characters!

It seems to me that treating it as a skill makes it more equitable to other players and also keeps me from developing her too quickly, both of which are important. It was kind of a weird one though because... seeing... is generally an inherent skill. So I think that your suggestion--being able to understand, mentally, the skills that she sees, but still unable to actually execute, would be a pretty good way to treat it, if you're all amenable to that. :D (And then I can add this skill to her reg~)

I will be absolutely certain to have some kind of proper permissions post and to ask people individually as well. If we're using the aforementioned system (understanding vs execution) would it be okay to assume that she can *understand* but needs permission for actual execution? Or how would that work? Again, just want to make sure my ducks are in a row; thanks for being so great about answering quickly. :)

Gotcha, thank you! <3

potential apper here! how are canonly dead characters handled in game? by which i mean, not spirits or vampires or anything. just dead ones

would their starter shard mainly function as a revival?

Nope! You can just say their soul - while dead - still got rescued because it still existed somehow if you would like. Your starter shard can be a memory or a skill, and doesn't have to be used to be a revival for a dead character. It's the mystery of Kyriakos' magic that they get to be alive suddenly, albeit without their memories and skills.

That's absolutely fine!

And you would OOCly need permission for the actual execution! It doesn't have to be done ICly at all.

Another ~~question~~ two questions for you guys regarding skills and training / learning to do stuff.

1. What if your character is trying to do/learn to do something that involves a skill shard they possess but is an aspect of it not covered by canon? Right now Hiyori's working with Ed to figure out what she can and cannot do with her astral form, and he suggested that he try changing the appearance of her clothes as that might just be a construct of her mind. She started then wondering if she couldn't change her entire form (ex: into a cat or eagle) if her shape is malleable. That's not something ever discussed in Noragami, possibly because there is literally no one to teach her the boundaries of her abilities. Is it okay to have creative leeway with aspects left unexplored in original canon, or do I need to get permission on each individual occasion, or is it better to just stick with what is purely canonically given to her rather than adopting other possibilities to fill in the gaps?

2. Again, involving training and skills. Is it possible to train up your skill as long as you actually play it out and make it take at least some time, as opposed to having to wait for a shard upgrade? I ask since canonically Hiyori does eventually gain control over slipping/versus not slipping out on her own, and here she actually has someone willing to help teach her / try to teach her how, based on their own canon's rules.

Sorry if any/all of this is over-thinking on my part, I just don't want to overstep boundaries and be godmoding here!

Edited 2015-03-31 05:24 (UTC)

1) They can play around with it if they'd like to! As long as it's fairly reasonable and something you could theoretically see happening in canon, you're free to play around with it as you'd like.

2) It's whatever you'd have the most fun with. If you have an upgrade shard in your registry, you can have her try to learn and, in theory, know what she needs to do! If you don't have an upgrade shard, you can continue to train it up. We'd prefer it to be one or the other as far as this goes, due to how mirrors and shards work and how they are literally part of her soul, so if you DO have the upgrade skill on her registry she shouldn't be able to train that part up since it would be a missing piece of her soul.

You can, of course, edit your registry as much as you need to in order to make it work for what you think is most fun.

1. Maybe what I'll do is talk with my castmates about it in a PP and see what they say. There are definitely plenty of spirits who *can* change their form, so I'd say it's technically possible. But her half-phantomness is kind of a unique case in the manga thus far meaning that there's just not a lot of info outside of what we've been explicitly shown, and I don't want to overstep my bounds and make anyone uncomfortable.

2. Gotcha! I will play around with stuff then and figure it out so it's consistent. Thank you!

mmmmore questions!! about the powercap bc the update post reminded me and bern is an overpowered shitlord

I've already given back her shard that lets her summon her scythe, but in canon it's sort of, like. A metaphysical thing that "can separate miracles from reality" which is ambiguous thanks to way Umineko works 8I Would it be acceptable if I interpreted this ability as dispelling/cutting through illusions? I'm not sure if that's within the powercap or not so I can just have it be a regular scythe.

SECONDLY as per being an overpowered shitlord she has so many different magic-based abilities left (teleportation, flight, restoring broken objects, rarely-used healing magic, self-healing/regeneration, summoning mundane objects out of the ether, commanding a legion of demon cats.....) would she even be allowed to keep them all, respectively powercapped? Since I'm not sure if that's number of powercap-appropriate powers vs. powercapping character appropriately, if that makes sense?

THIRDLY with the less quantifiable abilities like her cat legion and teleportation, what sort of powercap would suffice for them? I.e. teleporting only within a certain distance, only five cats at a time, etc.

Sorry for the trouble and thank you /o\

So, I have an idea for an Echo, but I don't know if I could just submit one app or if I'd need to submit three. Basically, my idea involves a set of 3 androids that share the same intranet, but they would each possess different mainframes/cpus (and therefor develop distinct personalities). However, they are meant to function together as one single "unit" or group based on their canon. Would it be permissible for them to be apped at once as a singular echo entity so that they can share the same realm / activity reqs, or would I need to app one and have subechoes form over time, or... I guess how best could I make something like this work? Or is it impossible?

1) It would be acceptable to interpret the ability as cutting through or dispelling illusions!

2) She would be allowed to keep them all, as long as they were all reasonably powercapped. They're all part of her, so there's no reason to say "no she can't do that" unless it would be legitimately gamebreaking in some way to have that power exist.

3) As a general rule, we like to trust our players with what they think is reasonable - for things like cats, five would be pretty okay! For things like teleportation, maybe only getting between dorms (as you go around the map) would be something.

Hopefully this helps!

It would be permissible to have them be a singular Echo entity! It's completely possible and up to you on how you would like to do it.

alrighty, thank you! <3

this is the dumbest journal to do this on but w/e

I want to app a character that wears combat armor. It comes with a lot of nifty things built-in, like a respirator and night vision. Could I lock off my character's ability to access these functions (it's armor that only my character can wear due to how it integrates with their body) thus reducing and restricting the combat armor down to the base protection/usefulness of any other kind of armor, to get around taking up the personal item slot with it?

Or does any sort of armor, however depowered or simplistic, automatically fill the personal item slot?

And! Would a bomb collar (presumably deactivated upon arrival to Kyriakos) count as a personal item or as part of the character's clothes?

Locking off the ability to access those powers is fine! Given the collar and the potential to regain those, however, it would be best to have the armor take up the slot of the personal item regardless.

The bomb collar could be counted either way, depending on player preference!

Hello! I'm a potential apper and I was wondering when your apps will be open. It says that apps will be opening when the queue dies down, but the queue hasn't been updated for nearly three months now, which is how long apps have been closed, and from what I can tell mostly everyone in the current queue has been placed. Can we get a status update on the queue and maybe a rough estimate of when apps will be open again? Thanks!

The queue has been updated, and it will still take some time! We have, currently, fourteen applications in the team queue and we would like to try to get the team queue below ten before we reopen them. It's hard to give an estimate on when we will reopen applications because it relies on the speed at which people are placed. Hopefully it doesn't take too much longer! We're sorry for how long it's taking.

If you're looking for the Cat queue, however, we will be reopening those applications within the next week.

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